tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573297.post115264933875077641..comments2024-01-16T03:24:26.796-05:00Comments on Piri' Miri Muli': Eulogy for a blog nameIan Keenanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573297.post-1152877311300531382006-07-14T07:41:00.000-04:002006-07-14T07:41:00.000-04:00Ah, well the XYZs serve somewhat various uses in d...Ah, well the XYZs serve somewhat various uses in different poems and stanzas of that sequence ("Vishnu's Watusi"); -- though my note above sought actually to point to a subsequent poem-cycle ("An Inland Journey"), but no matter . . . beyond noting the latter is a more conventional narrative (though with complicating interfusions of timeframes in some later parts, among else).<BR/>But (as I remark somewhere), my basic sense of the XYZ reiterative end-phrase -- as style and function -- owes something to readings in ghazal poetry (where a repeating refrain at couplet-end is a strict requirement of the form). On one level, this was merely a silly solution to an alphabetic problem (viz., relative dearth of X, Y, and Z-starting words in English -- I had a hard enough time with Vs and Ws and even Ks). I kept to it, as it seemed (to me) to hold maybe a tad more than jejune or sheer obfuscatory or pseudo-dada utility. Although one may overestimate one's scribbles at times.<BR/><BR/>cheers,<BR/>d.i.david raphael israelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16621521896693000470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573297.post-1152802576527454852006-07-13T10:56:00.000-04:002006-07-13T10:56:00.000-04:00DRI: I have enjoyed my first go-round with your ve...DRI: I have enjoyed my first go-round with your verses, especially as I don’t quite get the XYZs. I take that as a sort of “The world is all that is the case” semantic completion, that the alphabet has come to an end and the poem must be an ‘incomplete set’ with voids within its closure. That sounds better than ‘Rameau’s fly is down.’<BR/><BR/>Andy: Yes we’ll all miss All About Your Caste, or at least show up for the free food at the funeral reception.Ian Keenanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573297.post-1152772444055083232006-07-13T02:34:00.000-04:002006-07-13T02:34:00.000-04:00Thanks for the "shout out," Ian. Quite an explosio...Thanks for the "shout out," Ian. <BR/>Quite an explosion of posts here in the last few days. I'll miss the old title, though we must move on...<BR/><BR/>Lotta stuff to think about, ask about (what "fate" means in all these contexts, etc.), chuckle at... hope I have time to do more than the last soon.<BR/><BR/>cheers,<BR/><BR/>AndyAndy Gricevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04367834692026653431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573297.post-1152680746283355812006-07-12T01:05:00.000-04:002006-07-12T01:05:00.000-04:00Wowz: good stuff, Ian.As you began to unwind the f...Wowz: good stuff, Ian.<BR/>As you began to unwind the fate thread, I was getting ready to remark to you (and/or note to Andy G.) the coincidence of his launch into consideration of The Fatalist; but . . .<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile (to the hoary gesticulation of socalled shameless self-promotion; or more modestly-self-conceived as an incidental and tengential aside):<BR/>I've most lately writ&blogged an (for me) ambitious narrative poem "fable" playing (among else) with some questions of time, fate, the so-called eternal recurrence, immortality (as mystically conceived; not really a question of egolife-extension), and kindred quaint themes, said 64-quatrain curiousity bearing the name An Inland Journey.<BR/><BR/>I like your mention of Amerindian and Hindu views of fate in one breath. I feel more acquainted (at least in certain respects) with the former; but the degree to which a core of fate-germane ideas insinuate themselves into all folktale-rife cultures, seems an interesting question. And anybody who's read or heard any of those tales (the Amerindian ones) cannot fail to sense something interesting afoot vis-a-vis the patterns and textures of story: which are deeply tied to what we else (wearing often another hat) call fate, yes?<BR/><BR/>basta [Italian] / bas [Hindi] /<BR/>pasta [Italian via Marco Polo],<BR/>d.i.david raphael israelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16621521896693000470noreply@blogger.com